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on the trail. it is the gift that keeps on giving. >> how they can justify. raising taxes in the middle class. it has been buried in the last four years. how in the lord's name. >> that is nodt a froidian slip. plus three stories that happen to break before the election. a leftist new york attorneyy general looking to bash banks and that is as phony as a $3 bill. also a judge strikes down pennsylvania's voter id law and the obama administration is telling companies it is okay to disregard the law when it comes to handing out pink slips in advance to big budget cuts. all three happening before the election. mitt romney has finally put meat on the bones of his tax reform idea. he floated the idea of a $17,000 cap on tax reform reduction. >> you could say everyone is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction. you can fill that bucket if you will and higher income people might have a lower number. >> this is brand new stuff. we have howard dean former vermont governor and candidate. and let's look at this for a second. what do you think? a $17,000 cap on tax deductions for everybody as a way of bein

. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a$5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopeless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not th

. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes skewed toward the wealthy and roll back regulations, we'll be better off. i have a different view. i think we have to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure that we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the united states. that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars, to rebuild america. and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make critical investments. now, it ultimately is going to be up to the voters, to you, which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top down economic policies that helped get us into this mess? or do we embrace a new economic patriotism, that says america does best when the middle class does best? i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney, two minutes. >> thank you, jim. an honor to be with you and pleased to be with the president. i'm pleased to be at the university

taxes on people at the high end of the income scale apreposterous. i think you would agree. obviously if the republicans get into power they are going to cut taxes at the high income and he got on stage tonight and said no. >> romney's problem is that this debate is in 2012, not 1812. we have things we can hit a button to show what he has said before. no doubt mitt romney was at his best tonight but his best is not good enough. when you look at the fact that he's saying that taxes will not go up on the middle class, yet he is proposing all the way through this campaign, dealing with deductions in terms of mortgage investments, dealing with deductions in terms of charity, it will in fact go up on the middle class and a much lower tax rate for the rich. the fact will not bear him out. when he stood there all night advocating states' rights across the board, what is that saying to women about who is going to decide on women's issues? what is that saying to minorities t immigration? this man went back to the 19th century on states' rights all night long. when we hear him talk about things

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they don't have enough time to explain how they will change your tax deductions, like your home mortgage tax deduction, in the romney/ryan tax plan. not enough time. they can't even say if you will pay more or less with their tax plan. well, mitt, i'm sure president obama will give you as many of his minutes as you need to explain it all in wednesday night's debate. >> mitt romney needs a great october. >> we know romney needs a great october. >> to change the course of this campaign. >> the final push is on. >> just days away from the first presidential debate. >> both candidates cramming for the first debate. >> everyone trying to lower expectations. >> franticly spinning to lower expectations. >> >> president obama is an experienced debatetor. >> i'm just okay. >> almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell thvernlths is mitt's first time. >> i don't buy that. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative

plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any specifics to chris wallace on fox news. he said he had no time. >> i'm going t

week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the rich. he says he's going to offset that, but when asked by wolf blitzer, are you going after where the money is, the mortgage deduction? rule going after charitable, which everybody seems to like? i'm not going to keep those preferences. how can he do it? is he houdini? >> he can't do it. th

rid of the charitable deduction, because that's the only way you have revenue neutrality in these tax cuts he's talking about. his only plan for economic improvement in this country is to cut the taxes mainly of the rich. that's his only plan. the only defense of this strategy is he's going to get rid of loopholes. tell us that, governor. show us what you're going to do or stop talking. i think he's got to be that aggressive. but the main message is, show me your cards. stop bluffing. >> we have seen a little bit of telegraphing this week from mr. romney, that maybe he will put some details into his economic talk. he's started to float some new ideas about taxes that he never floated before. my question is whether or not he thinks the right place to unveil those is in a debate setting. surprise the president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight,

economic theory of tax cuts for the very rich, despite the fact that he denied the existence of tax cuts or the existence of math. the notion that let's go to war on wall street -- go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss. that's exactly what got us into this mess. >> that's not what they saw. i get the interpretation. you have a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be someone they'd never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising. he was a guy brimming with new ideas and energy. and they saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 trillion tax cut. and he said i don't have time. mitt romney said we just don't do math. like mat

worse economic news again. we saw that corporate tax has dropped by about a third from precrisis levels, basically small businesses are just not growing in this environment and big businesses are chasing profits abroad. so the government is just not getting the tax take on that front. in the asset classes, you can see some of the levels not that good at the moment. bundes still attracting a lot of attention. we've been waiting on spain to fishlgly l-- officially ask fo that aid. nonetheless, we're not seeing too much pressure on the periphery, 5.75%. let me send it back to you. >> thank you very much. the first presidential debate. john harwood is on the ground in denver. he joins us with the latest nbc news "wall street journal" poll. it looks like things are starting to even out at least a little. is this the bounce that president obama got after the democratic convention coming back down? >> well, i think it's the bounce from the convention and the surge that he got on top of the convention with that 47% video, so there is some good news for romney. not only our national poll, but a

has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> now larry, mitt romney is speaking this evening in virginia. we'll see both candidates in virginia and ohio over the next 24 hours. that will give viewers on television a chance to decide whether that was the real mitt romney last night or it was the real barack obama at the debate, larry. >> all right. many thanks, we appreciate it. >>> so mitt romney outhustled, outfacted, outenergized and outinformed president obama. msnbc's chris matthews, an old pal of mine, completely went off the rails. take a listen to this. >> where was obama tonight? romney, i love the split screen. staring at obama. addressing him like the prey. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i got to beat him. you got to beat the champ and i'm going to beat him tonight. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he sure was, chris. he was winning big time. so now that romney is on a roll, where does he run after last n

business going. helping small business. >> encouraging small business growth lowered taxes for small bidses. through small businesses. 97% of small businesses. >> it's small businesses. a guy who has a small business. successful small businesses. >> those small businesses. >> all the praise for small businesses and their owners obscures the questions we should ask. what counts as a small business and what is their role in the u.s. economy? many of these small businesses talked about are anything but small. in order to avoid paying income taxes, they use sole propriet proprietorships and s-corporations. the owners file the profits on individual tax returns making the term small business about the number of owners rather than anything else. as a result, these small business owners include partners of hedge funds. also, donald trump. >> under governor romney's definition there are a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who are small businesses. donald trump is a small business. i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything, but it's how you define small businesses to get business incom

, only 2 voted against the plan by the time we were finished. we didn't raise taxes. you raised them by a trillion under obama care. we didn't cut medicare. of course, we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next year. and likewise a study of mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are at risk of being dropped. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this, and the republicans had the plan. they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this impo

. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geopolitical foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. if you vote for me in november i'll finish

is important for education purposes. >> i don't think cutting taxes or preking the wealthy is the way to go. >> i was lucky enough to find a job at the beginning of the summer, but it's really difficult to find a job when you're a college student. >> interesting. those students were in line to get tickets for president obama's speech later this week at the university of miami. in 2008, senator obama beat senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. according to statistics from the zx 2.8 million people are registered as independents or with a third party. the numbers are interesting, but it means nothing if there's no emotional component that will motivate them to do it. this is why the debates are so important in today's information culture. there must be a real emotional appeal by president obama if he's to succeed in getting these voters ou

because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he do denied his plan to limit nate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bolterring to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the energy ro emergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which cover

the so-called political zingers. among the topics that generated the most heat, taxes. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale that you're talking about. my view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. high income people are doing just fine in this economy. they'll do fine whether you're president or i am. the people having the hard time are middle income americans. under the president's policy, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the definite it or burdeneni ing the middle class. it's hamath. >> another hot topic, the deficit. >> it's now four years later, we stil

's got a lot of dough, and hasn't released any tax returns, zero tax returns i think. what did you find out, anything? >> billion in a prior story, not this story, when we looked at earmarks we did find earmarks that was very close to his undeveloped property. >> right, i saw a nice deal here on a land deal in 1998, 700 grand. anyway, just wondered. >> right, exactly. we have a whole host of stories that we've done that look more at this intersection between their duties and their personal assets and that's -- >> that's the best way, not with a couple of, you know, stock tips in congress. i like it ben they do the earmarks, where they buy something and then maybe check the former speaker, too. anyway, right? kimberly, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you very much for having me. >> all right, see you. >>> oh, it's me. coming up, this morning's top stories set to foreboding music. the rails for the white house, both hitting the campaign trail. former governors face off in the issues and former hp boss carly fiorina, why she calls the board a serial dysfunction, and not like cereal. you

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. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class, who has been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts. >> dan, look, there is plenty of fodder for this debate without that. but since that is so 11th hour, is that expected to be played up heavily tonight? >> i don't think the obama campaign doesn't think this will be a distraction, but perhaps this will be something that governor mitt romney will jump on at some point during the debate. it is interesting, the vice president made those comments yesterday while campaigning in north carolina. and right after that, the romney campaign jumped all over those remarks. in fact, they put together a conference call to draw attention to that. the obama campaign fighting back saying that's an act of desperation and what the vice president was talking about is that there was this climate over the last four years that were created by decisions that were made in the previous administration. and so, again, they don't see it as a distraction, but i wouldn't

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jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. never heard of them. and he said, if that's true, he must need a new accountant. so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. [ male announcer ] don't miss endless shrimp. try as much as you like, anyway you like. like new teriyaki grilled shrimp for just $14.99! my name is angela trapp, and i sea food differently. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but

in three years. and they're going to see higher taxes. that's a lump of coal for any anniversary. rather than focus on the negatives in alcoa, focus on the fact they have asian exposure, european exposure. focus on the positives. financial engineering is back in this market. some of the parts for a company like alcoa exceed the value. >> you're making excuses for alcoa even before the ceo comes on. i like that. bob, what do you make of the action? put it in perspective, five years compared to now. >> the dow jones industrial average went from 1500 to 750. that was cut in half. that certainly was a disaster. >> you mean the s&p? >> the s&p, excuse me, bill. nonetheless, bottom line is holding on from that point to here, you can say, yeah, does buy and hold still work? that's what everybody's interested in. i think the evidence is it certainly does, but you have to have long periods of time to look at it. i'm not so impressed that we're not anywhere where we were 12 years ago. if you invested on a regular basis from now through the bottom, i think you'll find you have not done so bad here,

70% of the price of a gallon of gas. there are other things, marketing, taxes, things like that. we don't know the cause but we know one thing, the oil companies fully integrated make more money when the price of gasoline is higher. so, it's certainly more than coincidental that the price of gasoline stays higher longer than the price of oil. there's no evidence to show that there's something -- that there's a legitimate effort by oil companies to keep gasoline prices higher. it is certainly suspicious and certainly profitable for the oil companies. >> sterling, what's going to get gas prices down? that's all people care about. they keep hearing oil prices are going down, yet they drive to the pump and pay $4.50 or $5 a gallon? >> well, you can work three end of it. you can work it, supply. you can work on demand. and we're doing both of those. and you can work it volatility, which is a huge, huge factor. as i said, gas -- most of the retailers in my area are independent retailers. they don't lock in long-term or can't lock in long-term oil/gasoline contracts. >> but how much -- >>

to taxes and he wants to beat up on big bird. what governor romney says, you saw him pivot again today, he says well, that's just one example but you have to give examples and you have to start making choices. we have to review everything and we can't keep from china. it helps both of them. conservatives love to hear their candidate beating up on pbs, on government subsidies, saying i'm going to look at everything and cut, and if you're obama and trying to reach those moderate suburban women and keep them with you, their children probably watch big bird. >> gloria, john king, thank you very much. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter. i'm tweeting in this hour. >>> up next, an exclusive interview with mitt romney. wolf blitzer sat down with him, asked him what president obama did not about the now famous hidden video in which mr. romney writes off the 47%. >> i'm curious, governor, how did that evolution in your thinking go on from the initial reaction, once that tape came out, to what you said the other day that you were completely wrong? [ woman ] ring. ring

and minimize taxes. they got him ted dead to rights again. i don't know if any american cares. do you remember how the kennedys made their money? >> i think there was some boot legging. >> might have been a little boot legging. john kerry married and then left his yacht in providence or something, didn't he. and then john edwards flipping his magnetic business card at all the ambulances going by made $80 million. it's weird, isn't it? >> he was a good lawyer. >> and a hell of a human being, too, johnny. we have ten seconds. >> i don't think additional incremental disclosures about offshore investments will make a big deal. >> all right, my friend, thank you. >>> when we come back, we'll get to kevin ferry from the cme, we'll find out what's most likely to drive action on the second day of the quarter. smart comes with 8 airbags, 3 a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. becau

repeatedly insisted he was not advocating a big tax kuchlt in fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. now, as "the washington post" reporter checks out, for two years rom hi has been campaigning on a tax cut that would cost around $5 trillion over ten years. he said he would eliminate deductions and spending to pay for it. he never offers details. he did say he would cut funding for public broadcasting which was 0.01% in 2012. medicaid was 0.13%. romney also spoke in favor of regulations including much of the dodd/frank bill and he repeatedly held up as a model his health care plan in massachusetts which has added center the individual mandate and on which obama care is based. romney's transformation did not happen overnight. the candidate has been reworking his stuck stuck speech. he has a five-point stump speech. the first four points are absolutely identical to obama's stump speech. 2, dough mess tech energy, 3, retraining programs, four, domestic. on five they differ. i've long argued that romney is an intelligent man trapp

, approach that he had last week on taxes. i'm going to have a huge tax cut for everyone but i don't have a plan. we're going to arm the good guys without the bad guys. i think he looks less serious in a speech when he's trying to talk about a way he would like the world to look -- >> latin america is another example. he had two sentences on latin america. that was hugo chavez. he didn't congratulate him on winning this weekend. but he -- >> i'm not sure he needed to. >> but two lines, two sentences on latin america, a great economic power down there, brazil, a company named after my own family. and no mention of brazil >> don't you think that this is the romney campaign trying to respond to what has frankly been a mix of sort of incompetence, blunders and inexplicable comments from the white house libya the last few weeks and that's why the focus was on middle east. >> perhaps on mitt romney's failure to establish himself as a world-class leader when you go to great britain and basically insult the people there, insult the people in poland -- >> but -- >> he did talk about a two-state so

said it yesterday, i will say it today, i loved him saying i will not cut a tax that will raise the national deficit. now, everybody can obsess on his 87 -- and obsess on what he said during the primaries. but that sent a message to me, jim vandehei. >> of the philosophy. >> that that philosophy, a moderate philosophy, a conservative with a small "c" philosophy, that i'm not going to be a crazy ideologue, i'm not going to slash first and ask questions later. i'm mindful that we live in a global -- on a global stage. where investors are scared to death that the u.s. is going to sink deeper in debt. he's striking, though, he's striking the right tone for me. i know he's striking the right tone now for a lot of americans. i don't think you can overstate the importance of that new tone. >> well, and if he were to win, and i still think it's a big if, he would have a lot of flexibility, i think, to do what you were talking about three or four minutes ago on the show, which is do a global deal that's positions the united states to really sort of take advantage of this global slowdown.

depending on which way the electorate goes, you're going to see the deficit reduced either by tax increases or public spending cuts or a bit of both. and i do think the intrenched positions you've had the last year and a half will in the send cause someone to blink, either the administration or congress because ultimately neither will want to push the u.s. into an unnecessary recession next year. the answer is, yes, i expect some compromise. may seem foolish given the behavior of washington in the last few quarters. but having said that, i do think you're going to see some compromise. and ultimately, although it has hurt the market, it won't be too much of a negative going into next year. >> some may argue the more important elections in the next few weeks are the spanish regional elections on the 21st, which may trigger or allow spain to then ask for a bailout. do you think that's the event to watch as opposed to -- earnings season is great, it's not going to be a headwind in your view. but do we really need spain to request a bailout in order for us -- the equity markets to move higher he

? they are still worried about carbon taxes. they have to take the carpet tax up before the carbon tax. >> i gotcha. >> the carpet tax. >> animal crackers? >> no, no. >> duck soup? oh, man, is that terrible. >> part of the imf forecast, jim, bringing the numbers down for the global economy has been austerity does not work. >> it doesn't work. but that's paul crudeman who says it. i pet you paul crudeman believes in the 7.8 number, the big phony number. i bet you crudeman believes in it. how is that the focus of the discourse? i'm trying to make it alcoa. look, the imf is saying the obvious. the world bank is saying the obvious. if you continue to call for austerity you can't get growth. it's like, look, you want growth or want austerity. lyndon johnson, guns and butter equals inflation. if you just -- they are not doing guns or butter. if they are not doing margarine, they aren't doing machine guns. >> then you start again but they can't do that. >> we are devalued better than they are devalued. >> you would think we would be but the dollar is much stronger given anticipation of where rates are. >>

of a a$5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan." mitchell: "the nonpartisan tax policy center concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years." vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] [ male announcer ] gly nimble, ridiculously agile, tight turning, fun to drive 2013 smart. ♪ >>> welcome back to "starting point." clint eastwood's address raised eyebrows because

record. president arguing romney's plan on taxes and the deficit are the same types of ideas that caused the recession. here's what romney had to say about tackling the ballooning debt. >> i think it's not just an economic issue. i think it's a moral issue. i think it's frankly not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in, knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation. and they're going to be paying the interest and the principal ail their lives. and the amount of debt we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. >> jim, that's a message that is probably pretty effective to a middle-income voter in ohio or pennsylvania. but i know last night you were all about the things that were said about coal, things that were said about solar, and there were a million trades in there last night. >> at jim cramer on twitter, i try to come to play with what i can do, which is that if you wanted to know specific stocks to buy off this, of which by the way, there were many, if you felt that obama were to lose and romney to win, this is a

was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that bucket if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll simpson did it. but that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so that's the most detail we have heard romney talk about this idea of different buckets and a cap on deductions. but still it's been at nearly every stop in the the last two weeks. romney has had to explain the 47% remark. don't be surprised if we hear a version of this answer when it comes up wednesday night. >> if you could go back to that fundraiser, would you have said it differently? >> it's not productive for someone to get into the detail of how a campaign is going to cop l together the people i need to win an election. i'm a president for 100% of the american people and that's the real%

will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work if you don't have regulation. pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. with regard to health care what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation state by state. ♪ stuck in the middle with you ♪ >> that fire-breathing lefty mitt romney there's lot of talk about him moving to the middle in his rhetoric. last night he said this. >> in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you say and that doesn't come out right. in this case that's something that's completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown i care about 100%. >> krystal said he would double-down or walk it back. you did it again. >> what can i say? >> what a way to start the spin cycle. i've also heard and it should be pointed out there's a lot of hang-wringing on the far left about obama's moderate debate performance. his sort of mealy mouth stance on social security, failing to call out the do-good, do-nothing republic

a piece of that tape. >> are you going to make your tax returns available to the press? >> say again? >> are you going to make your tax returns for the past several years available to the press? >> i didn't hear you. >> apparently we are losing audio with arnold schwarzenegger in los angeles. arnold, thank you for your time. we appreciate it very much. let me switch over to -- >> now, governor, you actually heard just fine, didn't you, at that particular moment? >> not that i can remember. >> here's what you wrote about that exchange that we just played you with matt lauer. as he pressed me for specifics on how to bring back the california kple and when i would release my tax returns, i realized i was unable to answer. i finally had to resort to the grou groucho marx trick of, i'm sorry, i can't hear it. it was my lamest performance ever. >> maria was really mad at me. she said, you need to think about what you are going to say when you do those interviews. and i said you better believe it. there's a lot of things i have to learn now that i'm on the campaign trail. >> would you run f

capital and have cuts in spending that are meaningful and then you have to raise taxes and close loopholes. you have to have all three working in concert to deleverage out of the system we are in. $40 billion makes sense to me. q with e 3 makes sense to me up to a point. i noted in the minutes that i would read from the minutes that if unemployment is above say 6 1/2% and inflation is below 3% you are going to see qe-3 from one month to the next. once you get close to the numbers i think they will shut it down. $40 billion a month will inflate the monetary supply by 15% a year. that's not something we are accustom to seeing. we are deleveraging. at some point inflation creeps in to the process. >>> what about the civil suit that we saw? we saw a civil suit by new york state attorney general against jpmorgapapmorgan chase. they are alleging fraud in the bear sterns business in the sale of mortgage-backed securities in 2008. first, do you think this is a day late and dollar short and is it fair to target jpmorgan chase since they were forced to acquire the company during the financial crisis

without getting to the unpopular parts he's been avoiding talking about like what are the tax breaks he's going to take to get the rates down. he's got to be on offense but not too much. it's hard. everything went right for george bush in 2000. gore was bad, he had orange make-up. he got in bush's face, that didn't go very well. bush overperformed, no foreign policy experience, he did very well. and the bush team outspun the gore people because they pushed their story line. and you went from, you know, minus five before the debate to plus a couple afterward and went on to win that disputed victory. but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his convention speech. he said, look, i'm not going to heal the world, not going to part the seas, i want to help you and your family. the message being maybe i'm not as charismatic, i'm not a superstar the way many of

frequency trading has destroyed a lot. >> and suggesting you tax intraday trades 50%, trades less than a minute, 100%, that would cut down on it in a hurry. >> no one wants to put the genie this the bottle, meaning financial engineering. the s.e.c. has been disgraceful. it's almost like when the interstate commerce came in, completely owned by the refs. like a cuban, like a cooperman, and they are not going to because i think they are captured. >> all right. let's check on bob pisani. i think he may be in that crowd of lifelock. >> yes, we are right here. the ceo is right here behind me. it's still a little early. i think we have a few moments before it's going to open. price talk is well above that. let me talk about where the markets are because a lot of chatter about the fact that the markets look like they are stalled and kind of running out of steam. there's been a lot of talk that we've had the positive ism. market is not doing much. obviously the question is about the spanish aid request. that moves the markets around on an intraday basis. a lot of people trying to position oh t

had hoped, tax free. i'm very proud of the team, including my ex-cfo. they really put together a good plan with alibaba. which ever way they do it, probably share buy back, i actually have no idea, that's good for the shareholders. >> you know, it seems to me that it's a real crux or sort of a dilemma that you face when you're in technology and sort of a proponent of, you know, information flow across the world and dealing with a government that withholds information. how do you balance that? of course, i'm talking about the chinese. >> well, that was actually, you know, there were a lot of issues around that. not only with alibaba but also with all of the users in china. to make sure that we were doing the right thing for everyone relative to freedom of information, so that's not going to go away any time soon. it's just going to have many chapters. we're probably only in chapter three. >> what a tremendous fall. i mean, shareholders obviously, yourself included, have watched the company lose a tremendous amount of market value. you think yahoo! can get it back? >> i think they can.

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ohio as well, where the president came out swinging, hitting mitt romney on taxes. you heard him repeat at every stop the whole big bird line, over the weekend at a couple campaign events in los angeles, brought up the 47% which is something the president did not touch on at all during the debate. but also, you see in the campaign, pushing back hard like today, responding even before mitt romney made his speech on foreign policy, they had a couple of ads ready to go and then put together a conference call with campaign officials and also madeleine albright, former secretary of state and they are saying he's erratic, unsteady, irresponsible, something the campaign was not as quick to do in the past but post-debate, a much more aggressive tone from the campaign. >> jim, you have been following governor romney for a long time. you talk about a smile he has on the campaign trail. have you seen a big difference in how he's been campaigning since the debate? >> absolutely. you know, one thing that we should touch on is in that pew research center poll, it shows an 18 point swing to mitt romne

to raise taxes and close loopholes. uh got to have all the three working in concert to de-leverage out of the system we are in. $40 billion makes sense to me. qe3 makes sense to me up to a point. i did note in the minutes that i would read from the minute that is if unemployment is above say 6.5% and inflation is below 3%, you're going to continue to see qe3 from one month to the next, but one you are getting close to the numbers they will start to shut it down. $40 billion a month will inflate the monetary supply by 15% a year. that's not something we are accustomed to seeing. we are de-leveraging but at some point inflation creeps into the process. >> tom, what about the civil suit that we saw this week, the civil suit by new york state attorney general against jpmorgan chase, they are alleging widespread company by the bear stearns business by the sale of mortgage-backed securities back in 2008. first, do you think this is a day late and dollar short and is it fair to target jpmorgan chase since they were forced to acquire the company during the financial crisis? >> it is always tou

tax breaks for the middle class, especially those businesses and people in the middle income area and see the refinancing of our mortgages so people can be secure in their homes and know that they won't be thrown out into the streets. >> so, bakley, for you vooers out there, for voters out there who grab on to the 7.8% rate and say that is a bright spot, you are saying, be cautious. there is still a bumpy road ahead. >> we're on a steady path, but i would say the president has laid out some very good choices unlike other individuals and i would say that this has shown us already 5.2 million private sector jobs created. we still have more work to do so let's look forward to more work toward getting the congress to work with the president and getting everyone working as a team together on making sure that people get those jobs. >> finally, before i let you go, you say skepticism over the numbers are lewdious. you say you're insulted. is there a danger, you believe, when large sections was country don't believe the data. not that it's ever been considered gospel, but when you have di

the governor's budget plan works, and you can pay for it, and his tax cuts, i think he'll be hard-pressed to say that well i'll get back to you, i don't have time. i think the debate's going to be interesting and they're going to have to back up their statements. i think they'll be held to account for more than they've been held to account for as far as the facts and the details in this hour debate, hour and a half debate. >> it will certainly be fascinating. for now, thank you very much. >> thank you, piers. >>> here to break down all the debate strategy in tonight's battleground america, two "new york times" columnists on opposite sides. charles blow and ross dalfell. thank you both. i see you're already snarling across the newsroom. >> we're great friends. >> i don't want to hear that. >> he's my favorite conservative. >> no time for friends. let me start with you, ross. romney's got it all to play for, good and bad, depending on who you talk to. this is make or break time in a good or bad way. chris christie believes and i will quote here, i've seen mitt romney do this before.

to be tax free bequeathment of her inherit answer -- it's a sweeping change of proposition eight. i'm flat out of time because we had such breaking news with jerry sandusky, i could talk to you until the cows come home. thank you for talking to us again, and good luck with the documentary. >> wonderful, i'll see you next time. >> i hope so. i'd like to be in one of your sermons one day, you'll have to get me out there. >>> the economy is starting to turn around. did you know that four legged friends may have something to do with it? ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowe

wants you to have pain today for someone else's tax gains. it's a hard case to make now. >> all right, so your book, though, examines the winners, the losers of the last 60 years of presidential campaigns. at this point in time, what are your predictions for what we see coming up next month? >> well, i see now -- romney did more than i thought he could in the first debate. his big job was to get people to say maybe there's more to him than i thought, and he immediately brought back the uncomfortable republicans, but he also opened everybody else's eyes. and it wasn't just the untruths he may have told. he also said some truths that are very powerful, and one of them was i can work with democrats and i've proved that in massachusetts and you can't work with republicans. now, there's a reason, there's a difference between flexible democrats and rigid republicans, but he has to find a way to make the case that he can keep and get more done than mitt romney, and that mitt romney is really the original release or release two, not the new mitt romney who's rewritten his past. >> uc san dieg

the obama administration wants to raise taxes by over a trillion dollars. this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan stick with the big picture and go after biden on the rising debt and our sky rocketed unemployment and talk about the failed last four years as opposed to being trying to get trapped in some of the bieden spiderwebs that he will try to weave. >> it appears that joe biden is really taking this seriously because the democrats don't want to repeat of the first debate, right? joe biden apparently has taken six days off and practicing, practicing, practicing, especially with zingers. >> yes, absolutely, and he should be taking it seriously. i thi

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